Introduction to SR4 - Satan's World System

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Summary

Part 4 of the Satanic Rebellion Series on Ichthys was one of the first studies on Ichthys that I read all the way through, and I found it fascinating due to how much of the world suddenly makes sense when examined from the proper spiritual point of view, tracing the true causes and effects of things. This study introduces the idea that the world we live in is all one big illusion put on by Satan, who manipulates everything from behind the scenes for his nefarious purposes. Learning to examine things in the world critically – critiquing the illusion – can help us Christians find freedom by dispelling the illusory shadows with the light of God’s spiritual truth.

Timestamps

00:0000:00 - Introduction
00:1000:10 - Outline
01:2401:24 - Why do this study in particular?
02:4502:45 - Plato’s Allegory of the Cave
05:0005:00 - Satan the puppet-master
09:5409:54 - The outline for SR4 on Ichthys
17:0417:04 - Steven’s high-level introduction
18:1318:13 - Recap

Content

(Derived from https://ichthys.com/SR4(SWS).htm)

Why do this study in particular?

As a child, you may have heard adults talking about “the way the world really works.” For us as Christians, we believe in a spiritual dimension hidden from our physical sight, but very real nonetheless. This, in fact, is the crucial driving force behind reality, even though it is veiled from our eyes at present.

At least for me as a teenager, Christianity was kept in its nice God-shaped box. There was the world in all its complexity, and then there was church and God stuff. Maybe somewhere deep down I knew the two were fundamentally linked, but it was never something that captured my thoughts explicitly.

Then I read this study. This is one of the first things on Ichthys I read all the way through, and to borrow an idiom, it completely blew my mind. Ah, I said. So this is what is beyond the illusion.

Plato’s Allegory of the Cave

In his Allegory of the Cave (Republic 514a-520a), the Ancient Greek philosopher Plato speaks of an allegory for life: humans chained to face a wall where illusions of shadow play before their eyes. This is all they know, so they think it is how the world actually works.

Having never been exposed to true light, those in the cave think that the illusions of shadow are reality. In truth, these humans are enslaved, chained in a prison of their false perception. After being dragged into the light, it may take a while for these people’s eyes to adjust – they’ve been used to only seeing shadows, after all. Those in the cave will be resistant to the light, as it is bright and painful for their eyes adjusted to darkness. Moreover, things in the outside world don’t compute in terms of “cave logic” – in great irony, those chained in the cave may mock those in the light as fools.

This allegory is actually a great explanatory tool. For Plato, light served as a metaphor for philosophical truth. For us in our present study, light instead stands as a metaphor for spiritual truth. As we learn about how the world really works in this study, it will be possible to move further and further from the illusions of shadow (what Satan’s world system would have us think are the actual realities) and more towards the light of spiritual truth.

Satan the puppet-master

The illusions put before us are created with intent: to veil the truth from our eyes. We must learn to critique them and instead see things as they truly are, all so that we can achieve the freedom that the truth affords us (John 8:32).

We as Christians must deal with the harsh fact that this world system, this kosmos (Greek: κόσμος), is presently ruled over by Satan, with him pulling the strings.

Bearing this in mind is in fact crucial, as it ensures we never forget that we are strangers in a foreign land, soldiers of Jesus Christ in enemy territory.

The outline for SR4 on Ichthys

See the study directly.

Steven’s high-level introduction

Everything in this world – from art, culture, politics, the media, governments, corporations, false religions, and even some groups calling themselves Christian – are all part of Satan’s web of lies and deceit that he has set up to trap and distract us as Christians and lead us away from the truth.

If we study the tactics Satan uses in his pursuit of his objectives, we can come to see the world as it actually is, and step off the hamster wheel of illusion that keeps us away from freedom in the truth.

Video/audio transcript

00:00 - hey guys my name is Steven Tammen and
00:02 - today we are going to start a new video
00:04 - study
00:05 - of part four of the satanic rebellion
00:07 - series on ichthys
00:08 - titled satan’s world system so here are
00:11 - some of the points we’re going to go
00:12 - over today
00:13 - we’re going to start on why you might
00:15 - want to do this study in particular as
00:17 - opposed to some of the other ones that
00:18 - ichthys has
00:20 - so ichthyos for example has a complete
00:22 - systematic theology
00:24 - this series as we’re going to be doing a
00:26 - part of it which
00:28 - covers the satanic rebellion predating
00:30 - the
00:31 - history of mankind and then a series on
00:34 - eschatology titled the coming
00:35 - tribulation series
00:36 - so we’ll start out just by explaining
00:38 - why this study in particular
00:40 - and then after that we’ll go into
00:42 - plato’s allegory of the cave now this
00:44 - serves as
00:45 - a useful parallel to some of the topics
00:48 - that we’re going to be discussing in
00:49 - this study
00:50 - and i like to use this as a way of
00:52 - framing how spiritual reality interacts
00:55 - with
00:56 - the illusory world before us after this
00:58 - we’ll be talking about how satan is
01:00 - ultimately the puppet master
01:02 - pulling the strings behind this world
01:04 - and then we’ll go through the outline on
01:06 - ichthys having covered most of this
01:07 - background information
01:09 - now this week we won’t be spending too
01:11 - much time on the outline and we won’t go
01:12 - in much depth
01:13 - but in coming weeks we’ll be hitting
01:15 - sections of this at a much deeper level
01:17 - going through more point by point after
01:20 - all that i’ll just give
01:21 - a couple paragraphs of my introduction
01:23 - to this
01:24 - and why i think it’s important for us as
01:25 - christians so
01:27 - in answering this question of why this
01:29 - study in particular
01:30 - i’ve written several paragraphs here
01:32 - that i’m just going to read now
01:34 - as a child you may have heard adults
01:36 - talking about the way the world really
01:38 - works
01:38 - for us as christians we believe in a
01:40 - spiritual dimension hidden from our
01:41 - physical sight but very real nonetheless
01:44 - this in fact is the crucial driving
01:46 - force behind reality
01:47 - even though it is veiled from our eyes
01:49 - at present at least for me as a teenager
01:51 - christianity was kept in its nice
01:53 - god-shaped box
01:54 - there was the world in all its
01:55 - complexity and then there was church and
01:57 - god stuff
01:58 - maybe somewhere deep down i knew the two
02:00 - were fundamentally linked
02:01 - but it was never something that captured
02:03 - my thoughts explicitly
02:05 - then i read this study this is one of
02:07 - the first things on ichthus i read all
02:09 - the way through
02:09 - and to borrow an idiom it completely
02:11 - blew my mind
02:12 - ah i said to myself so this is what is
02:15 - beyond the illusion
02:17 - at a high level then this study helped
02:19 - me make heads and tails
02:20 - of what is actually important in life
02:22 - versus what
02:23 - people say is important in life or what
02:26 - the illusion that satan has set up for
02:28 - us says is important
02:29 - this can have a somewhat
02:30 - disproportionately large effect on our
02:32 - lives as christians
02:33 - because once we realize the driving
02:36 - spiritual realities
02:37 - behind the world around us it can become
02:39 - much easier for us
02:41 - to understand what our role in our walk
02:44 - as christians should be
02:45 - and how we should interact with the
02:46 - world after that now before we get too
02:49 - much farther in explaining this study
02:50 - itself
02:51 - i find it useful to introduce this type
02:54 - this
02:54 - concept here of plato’s allegory of the
02:57 - cave
02:58 - so in one of his works called the
03:00 - republic
03:01 - in sections 514-520 the ancient greek
03:04 - philosopher plato speaks of an allegory
03:06 - for life
03:07 - humans chain to face a wall where
03:09 - illusions of shadow play before their
03:11 - eyes
03:11 - this is all they know so they think this
03:13 - is how the world actually works
03:15 - having never been exposed to true light
03:17 - those in the cave think that the
03:18 - illusions of shadow are reality
03:20 - in truth those humans are enslaved
03:23 - chained in a prison of their false
03:24 - perception
03:25 - after being dragged into the light it
03:27 - may take a while for these people’s eyes
03:29 - to adjust
03:30 - they’ve been used to only seeing shadows
03:31 - after all those in the cave will be
03:33 - resisted to the light as it is bright
03:35 - and painful for their eyes adjusted to
03:37 - darkness
03:38 - moreover things in the outside world
03:40 - don’t compute in terms of cave logic
03:42 - so in great irony those chained in the
03:44 - cave may mock those in the light
03:46 - as fools this allegory is actually a
03:48 - great explanatory tool
03:49 - for plato light served as a metaphor for
03:52 - philosophical truth
03:53 - for us in our present study light
03:55 - instead stands as a metaphor for
03:56 - spiritual truth
03:58 - as we learn about how the world really
03:59 - works in this study it will be possible
04:01 - to move further and further from the
04:02 - illusions of shadow
04:04 - what satan’s world system would have us
04:05 - think are the actual realities
04:07 - and more towards the light of spiritual
04:08 - truth now the bible itself does use
04:12 - light and darkness as a contrast but
04:15 - what i like about the allegory of the
04:16 - cave is it introduces this idea of
04:18 - illusion
04:20 - and what i mean by that is that there
04:21 - are things in the world
04:23 - that seem to be real and present
04:24 - themselves as real
04:26 - however once you dig down deeper and you
04:28 - put on your spiritual glasses as it were
04:30 - you find out that these things are just
04:32 - pretending to be important
04:34 - and for us as christians this is very
04:36 - much the idea behind
04:38 - the fact that spiritual realities are
04:40 - veiled from our eyes so you may have
04:42 - heard the expression
04:43 - eyes of faith if we look with our eyes
04:46 - of faith
04:47 - if we put on our spiritual glasses like
04:50 - i said
04:51 - it will be possible to see the spiritual
04:53 - dimension to life
04:54 - that we as christians believe is
04:56 - actually the important dimension
04:58 - even though it is not physically before
05:00 - us in the presence
05:01 - now the one who is trying to convince us
05:04 - that
05:05 - things of this world are important uh
05:07 - sort of
05:08 - in lieu of our pursuit of spiritual
05:10 - matters
05:11 - is satan and if you’ve never had someone
05:14 - explain this
05:15 - oh i don’t know in so many words it can
05:17 - seem a little bit shocking
05:19 - that satan is actually the one in
05:21 - control of the world
05:22 - so someone might ask if god’s omnipotent
05:25 - and god could crush satan in an instant
05:27 - then why does god let satan control the
05:29 - world at present why is the devil
05:31 - and his minions the people in power how
05:34 - does that make sense
05:35 - and the final answer to this question is
05:38 - that god
05:38 - allows satan to be in present dominion
05:41 - over us
05:42 - in this world because he’s using satan
05:45 - and his minions to test us so
05:49 - satan can’t do anything that god does
05:51 - not allow him to do
05:52 - in the book of job there is mention of
05:55 - satan
05:56 - going before god in heaven to accuse job
05:59 - and
05:59 - as we’ll get to in the outline presently
06:02 - there’s
06:03 - what is called the heavenly truce so god
06:05 - allows satan
06:07 - to do his thing on earth and even
06:09 - assemble
06:10 - with the elect angels in heaven but this
06:12 - state of affairs is only temporary
06:14 - in the final reckoning of things satan
06:16 - will be completely and utterly defeated
06:18 - when jesus christ returns in glory and
06:21 - he will be thrown into the lake of fire
06:22 - forever
06:24 - and of course at that point we will live
06:26 - on
06:27 - a new perfect earth with god and there
06:29 - will be no more sin and no more
06:30 - suffering
06:31 - so i’m bringing all this up just to say
06:33 - that
06:34 - when we talk about how satan is in
06:37 - control of the world at present this is
06:38 - only going to be a temporary state of
06:40 - affairs
06:41 - nonetheless it is important for us to
06:43 - actually believe that this is the case
06:45 - and to not have any illusions or false
06:49 - views of
06:49 - how the world really works and who is
06:52 - pulling the strings in terms of
06:54 - oh i don’t know government and society
06:57 - and culture
06:58 - more generally so that we don’t try to
07:00 - make friends with the world
07:02 - and view these things as things that
07:05 - don’t affect us negatively spiritually
07:07 - or things that aren’t dangerous
07:09 - rather than as they really are so at a
07:12 - high level
07:13 - the things that satan puts before us in
07:15 - the world are
07:16 - illusions set up with intent so that is
07:19 - to say
07:19 - satan doesn’t just do things on a whim
07:22 - or with no purpose
07:23 - he acts with specific strategy and
07:26 - tactics
07:27 - and that’s something that the outline in
07:28 - the study will talk a little bit more
07:30 - about
07:30 - specifically to veil the truth from our
07:32 - eyes and by truth we’re talking about
07:34 - spiritual truth
07:35 - so the things the bible contains the
07:37 - spiritual realities
07:39 - that govern existence so to escape this
07:41 - we must learn how to critique the
07:43 - illusion around us
07:44 - so recognize it for what it is and see
07:46 - the holes in it
07:47 - and even learn how to look around it or
07:49 - through it and instead see things as
07:51 - they truly are
07:52 - so that we can achieve the freedom that
07:53 - the truth affords us so this verse in
07:56 - john
07:56 - talks about the relationship between
07:58 - truth and freedom
08:00 - this is actually a verse i like to use a
08:02 - lot because
08:03 - while we might not think of slavery
08:07 - or bondedness as often with respect to
08:10 - our minds
08:10 - i think that in a great sense
08:14 - being bound mentally is even
08:17 - more terrifying a concept than being
08:20 - bound physically
08:21 - and one of the great things that
08:23 - spiritual truth affords us
08:25 - is that no matter what our physical
08:26 - circumstances may be
08:28 - if we believe in eyes of faith we will
08:31 - be completely set free
08:33 - by that faith so we’ll be set free from
08:35 - sin and will also be set free from the
08:37 - lies of the world
08:38 - and that specifically is what we’re
08:39 - going to be talking about in this study
08:42 - how if we have faith and if we trust in
08:45 - what god has done for us
08:46 - then even despite satan’s best efforts
08:49 - and all his strategy and his tactics and
08:51 - the traps he set up before us if we
08:54 - believe we’ll be able to navigate this
08:56 - web of lies that he has
08:57 - because the truth will set us free now
09:00 - there’s this greek word here
09:02 - cosmos that kind of describes
09:05 - the world system that satan has so
09:08 - it’s not solely just the world as the
09:11 - physical entity but also all of the
09:13 - human institutions that are set up so
09:15 - societies and nations and governments
09:17 - and
09:18 - culture and all of these other things
09:20 - are all sort of set up
09:22 - stacked against us to try to distract us
09:24 - from the spiritual realities
09:26 - and all of these things are ultimately
09:28 - presided over by
09:29 - satan only at present like we mentioned
09:32 - so
09:32 - the main takeaway here is that we need
09:35 - to keep this in mind
09:36 - we need to keep in mind that the world
09:38 - is in fact enemy territory for us
09:41 - governed by our arch enemy who is
09:44 - seeking to distract us from the truth
09:46 - and if we can keep these things in mind
09:48 - that we are strangers in a foreign
09:50 - land and soldiers of jesus christ in
09:51 - enemy territory
09:53 - we will be much more effective in our
09:55 - pursuit of the truth
09:56 - okay now we are going to be going
09:58 - through the
09:59 - outline for sr4 on ichthus so this is a
10:03 - long study as you can see by the sidebar
10:05 - over here on the right
10:06 - which means it is going to take us quite
10:08 - some time to work through it
10:09 - nonetheless today we’re just going to go
10:11 - over the outline at a high level
10:13 - so this is part four of the satanic
10:16 - rebellion series on ichthus
10:18 - and in the three parts before it one of
10:20 - the things that is covered
10:21 - is satan’s rebellion and fall from grace
10:24 - so that is sort of
10:26 - a recap section but once we jump into
10:28 - this study the first
10:29 - the first big section is talking about
10:31 - how we’re strangers in the devil’s realm
10:33 - so we’re going to be sojourners in this
10:36 - world
10:37 - controlled by him so this is not our
10:39 - home
10:40 - this is not a place of comfort for us
10:42 - but a strange land
10:44 - that we’re led through we’re going to
10:45 - talk about the vanity of life
10:47 - you might compare the book of
10:48 - ecclesiastes here so the pointlessness
10:50 - and futility of chasing after things in
10:52 - this world
10:53 - we’re going to talk about the hostility
10:55 - of the world something that comes to
10:57 - mind is how jesus says that
10:59 - if the world hated and persecuted him it
11:00 - will do the same things to us
11:02 - then we’re going to talk about the
11:03 - concept of viewing life
11:05 - as a battlefield for us as christians so
11:09 - objectives and tactics and enemies who
11:11 - seek to
11:12 - harm or subvert our efforts in the truth
11:15 - and of course if we have a battlefield
11:17 - then we have an enemy that we’re
11:18 - fighting against
11:19 - so the second thing after this just
11:21 - briefly goes over satan’s position
11:23 - after the fall and then we pick up with
11:26 - satan’s order of battle so you might
11:27 - think of this
11:28 - as how satan raised his troops against
11:30 - us and against the truth in the world
11:33 - so as we sort of mentioned before right
11:35 - now god is letting satan do things
11:37 - but satan’s on a short leash he can’t do
11:40 - anything that god doesn’t let him do
11:42 - so in a manner of speaking satan and all
11:44 - his minions are being used as tools by
11:46 - god
11:47 - much in the same way as nations in
11:50 - antiquity were used to punish
11:51 - other nations so you might think of
11:54 - israel
11:55 - getting conquered by babylon or assyria
11:58 - for example
11:59 - after that the study talks about the
12:01 - kingdom of god versus the kingdom of
12:03 - satan and what their attributes are
12:05 - and then it also contrasts the
12:07 - organization of the holy angels with the
12:09 - organization of the fallen angels
12:11 - so satan and his angels sort of mimic
12:13 - the organization
12:15 - that the elect angels have but it’s sort
12:17 - of an imperfect mimicry
12:19 - after that we talk about how god is
12:20 - using evil spirits in the world for his
12:23 - purposes
12:24 - again this is the idea of god’s
12:25 - omniscience being able to use
12:28 - the actions of these of these creatures
12:31 - even despite what the creatures
12:33 - themselves would wish
12:34 - so satan is being used by god even
12:37 - though satan
12:38 - has plans and intents counter to what
12:41 - gods are god’s just smart enough and
12:43 - wise enough
12:44 - to use satan even though there’s nothing
12:46 - satan can do about it
12:48 - then we’re going to talk about angelic
12:49 - combat
12:51 - and this probably isn’t so much angels
12:53 - flying around with swords which is maybe
12:55 - what people think it is
12:56 - but more about how angels who are these
12:58 - spiritual forces
13:00 - uh help and hinder us as humans in the
13:02 - world i mean it’s probably not like i
13:04 - said in such a direct
13:06 - physical way as we think of combat but
13:09 - you might compare in scripture how there
13:11 - was a dispute over moses body
13:14 - that is the sort of things that angels
13:16 - contend with each other with
13:18 - and finally we’ll talk about unbelievers
13:19 - in satan’s order of battle
13:21 - so unbelievers may be unwittingly used
13:24 - by satan
13:25 - so they if you ask them they wouldn’t be
13:27 - yes i am a person in satan’s army
13:29 - even if that’s what they are in fact
13:32 - after this we’ll get into what we’ll
13:34 - call satan’s tactical doctrine
13:36 - so the the sort of studied
13:39 - systematic approach that satan takes to
13:41 - deceiving us as christians in this world
13:43 - um and so this section opens with three
13:46 - lies
13:47 - that are all common to accepting the
13:50 - world’s point of view
13:51 - so the first lie is i don’t need god
13:54 - so i’m captain of my own ship i’m
13:57 - capable of running my own life thank you
13:59 - very much
14:00 - and we don’t need god’s help
14:04 - that is a characteristic common to
14:07 - unbelief
14:08 - in people across history is thinking
14:10 - that
14:11 - that we are in control
14:14 - after that comes the lie that i am like
14:17 - god
14:17 - so perhaps like god in our capacity to
14:20 - choose or in our intellectual
14:21 - superiority to the animals people
14:23 - start getting a swelled head and think
14:25 - about how great we are as humans
14:27 - and then the third lie and again very
14:29 - similar to how a lot of unbelievers
14:31 - probably wouldn’t say
14:32 - oh yes i’m in satan’s army they probably
14:34 - wouldn’t say
14:35 - oh yes god needs me however how they
14:38 - live their life
14:39 - actually betrays a belief in this
14:41 - concept that people think
14:42 - somehow in their heads that god needs
14:46 - them
14:46 - that they’re an important part of this
14:48 - universe and that
14:50 - without them god’s plans couldn’t be
14:52 - accomplished and other such insane
14:54 - thoughts like this
14:55 - so these are the lies the progression of
14:58 - of slippage away from the truth
15:00 - in the hearts of man after that we
15:03 - talk briefly about how satan runs
15:06 - the world system this cosmos of ours so
15:10 - religion and the occult and by this we
15:12 - primarily mean false religion
15:14 - and how false religion turns people away
15:16 - from the truth of
15:18 - actual true spirituality for us as
15:20 - christians
15:21 - then politics and society these wider
15:24 - issues
15:24 - economics and technology and also
15:28 - amidst all of this just the wider human
15:31 - institutions
15:32 - that are set up that often lead away not
15:35 - towards the truth
15:36 - so you might think of organizations in
15:38 - society and culture more
15:40 - generally and finally in regards to
15:43 - how satan organizes systematically his
15:46 - his tactical doctrine
15:47 - we’ll talk about how our perspective is
15:50 - believers interfaces with all this
15:52 - and then the last section of the study
15:54 - and boy it will be quite some time
15:55 - before we get here
15:57 - we’ll be talking about satan’s tactical
15:58 - methodology so he has
16:00 - the organizational plan and then his
16:02 - methods for implementing it
16:04 - um this section will open by talking
16:05 - about names for the devil
16:07 - um you may have heard satan of course
16:09 - means adversary
16:10 - but he’s also called the devil the
16:12 - father of lies
16:14 - and other things you know along these
16:17 - lines and how we can
16:19 - learn from these names that the devil
16:20 - has we’ll talk about
16:22 - demonic influence so how demons interact
16:25 - with our free will and temptation
16:27 - we’ll talk about demonic attack so how
16:30 - demons
16:31 - can interfere negatively in the lives of
16:33 - believers although only
16:35 - up to the point that god allows them to
16:37 - we’ll talk about demonic possession
16:39 - now that’s not something that happens to
16:41 - believers but to unbelievers
16:43 - and then we’ll talk about accusation of
16:45 - believers by
16:46 - satan and his forces so i mentioned the
16:49 - example of job before
16:51 - that’s one example in scripture of this
16:54 - and then finally we’ll talk about
16:55 - resistance to all of this
16:56 - on our part so that’s a high level
16:59 - overview
17:00 - of the outline as we’ll go through it
17:01 - and as i mentioned it will take us quite
17:03 - some time
17:04 - because this study is quite lengthy okay
17:07 - so
17:07 - one question might be if this study’s so
17:09 - long and we have all of this depth
17:11 - then as we started out with what’s the
17:14 - point
17:15 - right so at the very beginning slide i
17:17 - mentioned that you know this study
17:19 - was very helpful for me in seeing
17:22 - through some of what the world presents
17:24 - itself as important
17:25 - towards the wider spiritual realities
17:27 - but now that we’ve gone through an
17:28 - outline i’ll be a little bit more
17:29 - specific
17:30 - so here’s what i say everything in this
17:33 - world from art culture politics the
17:35 - media governments corporations false
17:37 - religions
17:37 - and even some groups calling themselves
17:39 - christian are all part of satan’s web of
17:42 - lies and deceit that he has set up to
17:43 - trap and distract us as christians
17:45 - and lead us away from the truth if we
17:47 - study the tactics satan uses in his
17:49 - pursuit of his objectives
17:51 - we can come to see the world as it
17:52 - actually is and step off the hamster
17:54 - wheel of illusion that keeps us away
17:56 - from freedom and the truth
17:58 - so at a high level having gone through
17:59 - the introduction this
18:01 - is why i think this study is useful
18:04 - for us as christians what we get out of
18:06 - it is being able to recognize the lies
18:08 - and the illusion
18:09 - around us in the world and instead
18:12 - replace that with pursuing the truth in
18:14 - our hearts
18:15 - all right so this is what we went over
18:17 - today we started
18:19 - at a high level of why i thought this
18:21 - study is useful for us
18:23 - and then i introduced the parallel of
18:25 - plato’s allegory of the cave
18:27 - and how that can kind of be a useful uh
18:30 - useful
18:31 - thing for us to pull from when we
18:34 - discuss
18:34 - spiritual truth versus the illusions of
18:36 - the world then we talked about how satan
18:38 - is
18:39 - temporarily in control of this world but
18:41 - only insofar as god allows him
18:44 - for the purpose of testing us and
18:45 - refining our faith as christians that’s
18:47 - why we go through
18:48 - hard things and that’s why satan is
18:50 - allowed to have this control
18:51 - then we talked about the outline for sr4
18:54 - as
18:54 - on ichthus and sort of a sneak preview
18:57 - of what we’ll be doing in coming weeks
18:59 - and then finally i gave another
19:01 - introduction as to why we are doing this
19:04 - after we’ve had a little bit more
19:05 - information on it